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yer ardy
09-04-2002, 05:26 PM
is it me? maybe it's me...but i dunno about this...at all.
what do you all think???
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By MARTHA IRVINE
.c The Associated Press

(Sept. 4) - They watch movies, pig out on pizza, then crash on the floor or on couches and beds in various rooms in the house. It's the typical teen sleepover - with one notable change: These days, the participants are increasingly likely to be boys and girls together in one big, coed event.

Mixed-gender sleepovers are gaining popularity, not to mention buzz on teen Web sites. Teens say they're just another way to hang out - a result of mixed groups of friends who want to spend even more time together. Some parents go along with that, though teen health experts warn that coed sleepovers make sexual exploration too tempting.

Samantha Gioia has been invited to three in her hometown of Greensboro, N.C. Her hesitant parents have let her go because of what she calls a ``trust and faith in each other that, from my view, is rare.''

David Harrington, who's from Kingston, N.Y., is having less luck persuading his parents. He's been invited to two coed sleepovers, but has been required to come home by midnight each time.

``I'm friends with both boys and girls,'' says David, who like Samantha is about to turn 16, ``So what's the big deal?''

His dad, Gerry, has a candid answer: ``Truth be told, I'm largely using my own sexual barometer - my own 'teen libido memory' - in making this decision.''

He's not the only parent who feels that way.

Carly Donovan says her mom ``flipped'' when she found out that boys were included at a recent sleepover at a friend's house in Scituate, Mass.

Carly, who's 15, says she was ``totally comfortable'' sleeping in the same room with the boys, who are friends.

``The only thing was waking up in the morning and not looking your best. But I was just like, 'Whatever,''' she says. ``They don't care, so I was fine with it.''

Her mom was not fine.

``Kids that age are experiencing raging hormones,'' Cinda Donovan says. ``Are we supposed to trust them?''

Dr. Marla Kushner, director of adolescent medicine at Chicago's Weiss Hospital, says ``no.''

Kushner says she's run across only a few coed sleepovers in her practice. But she has had young patients show up in her office the night after the prom, asking for tests for pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

``There are so many factors involved, such as peer pressure,'' Kushner says.

Gilda Carle, a psychotherapist and author, agrees that the sleepovers set up situations where teens may feel pressured to have sex, especially if alcohol and drugs are present.

``Kids are so burdened with all kinds of stressors in their lives today - why add another stressor?'' asks Carle, who addresses coed sleepovers in one of her books for teens and parents. ``I think this is a very unfair position for parents to put their teenagers in.''

Even some teens concede that there is reason to worry.

Of 879 young people recently polled by Teen People, for example, 83 percent said they'd seen or heard of their peers ``fooling around'' while at such an event. (Just over half said they'd been to a coed sleepover.)

Still, some young people say parents should base their decision on the circumstances. That includes Anne Hunnell, an 18-year-old who's just started her freshman year at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.

She says her parents allowed her, grudgingly at first, to stay over with supervised coed groups when she was in high school - especially if it meant they didn't have to drive home from a party or concert late at night.

She says two of her friends who attended ended up dating later, but that there was nothing but friendship at the time.

``It seemed like we all respected each other,'' says Hunnell, who now lives in a coed dorm.

Nicole Quigley, who's 25 and living in Washington, D.C., says there was another reason her parents - perhaps ahead of their time - let her have coed sleepovers when she was younger.

``If we weren't allowed to have stay-overs, we probably would have been using our bedroom windows as backdoors and hanging out with boys anyway,'' says Quigley, who grew up in Florida.

She says she behaved at the sleepovers because ``I saw them as a privilege I didn't want to lose.''

David Harrington hasn't given up on the idea of attending a coed sleepover. But he chuckles at the thought of throwing his own - an idea he's already posed to his parents.

``As you can imagine,'' he says, ``I was quickly vetoed.''

09/04/02 01:16 EDT

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luv2rok
09-04-2002, 06:28 PM
I'm old fashioned,so i suppose i would have to say that i wouldn't allow it.

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Immortal
09-04-2002, 06:54 PM
my best friend for the past 4 years has been a girl, and i'm a guy.. i sleep over at her house, she sleeps at mine.. same bed and all.. not once has the "should we have sex?" topic come up... maybe it's different with 18 year olds than it is with 14 year olds.. i don't know.
i think that if we say "boys can't be with girls and vice versa until age ___" then we're being just a bit too mormon about the whole thing.. (no offense to any mormons)..

but that's just my take

prism
09-04-2002, 07:17 PM
here's my take....my daughter is(almost) 17. she is allowed to sleep over with "the guys" I know these guys and she has been friends with them for years. this way I know that she and her friends will not be out on the road however impared they or the "other jerks out there" *may* be. I'm not naive, I know that sex happens at some sleepovers. But I think alot of parents think that if their child is at a same sex sleepover that guarentees that no sex will take place. now who's naive here? It's all about TRUST. You arm your child with birth control and condoms and you trust them to make wise decisions, about 90% of the time they will make the right choices for themselves. As for the other 10% of the time well, if they are really out to fuck around there's not much a parent can do to stop it....I mean what? are the parents gonna go around inspecting all the janitor closets at the local high school???....where there's a WILL there's a WAY no matter what their parent(s) say or do. anyone that's ever been a teenager knows just how TRUE that is. And really I didn't have sex with every guy that I shared a bed with(I just had to sneak out or lie to do it.)

I don't think about it so much as being liberal, much more as being realistic and SAFE.

peacefulness
09-04-2002, 07:30 PM
well, I never went to any 'sleepovers' that weren't supervised in some way. I really don't think that it's a big deal myself. In high school, mostly after prom, we'd all end up at someone's house and crash. Simple as that. A simple matter of hanging out with friends. Of course there are teenagers that are more inclined to take advantage of a situtation like that, which I think, is something that can be diverted with a parental presence. I'm not a parent.. in fact, I'm relatively barely out of that age. But I'd think, if I were a parent of a teenager, that I'd rather my child be at a sleepover with his/her friends (male or female), if there is some kind of parental supervision, rather than going out whereever in order to spend the time with their friends that they want to. In my opinion, it's necessary to give high school teenagers a little more freedom. I think that giving them more freedom better prepares them for adulthood... rather than just spitting them out into it when it's time for college, or whatever path they choose after high school.

It's also, again, a trust issue. If ypu pressume your teenager is not capable of contolling their hormones, then what reason do they have to even try? I'm glad that my mother trusted me as she did. By treating me like an adult, I acted like one and treated her the same. So I guess that that sort of influences my opinion. Now, I think they should be supervised sleep-overs. I think that high school teenagers should given a little more freedom, but they're not adults quite yet. Anyhow... I've been distracted by a show about Yellowstone on the Travel channel, so I'm not sure what i"m saying anymore... so I better stop. lol. I'm also hungry I should head off to the dining hall before it closes.

~Melanie

"I'd get gills put on my sides.. Like fish gills.. Uh huh, that's what I'd want." ~M-Brains

13throwcenter
09-04-2002, 08:23 PM
I think zach & priz have covered my opinion on this,
but then, part of me thinks it's kind of lame for parents to put other parents in the situation that something like this does.



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rise above
09-05-2002, 12:24 PM
oh, it sounds like great fun...BUT i remember too well the days when i was 15. i don't know if i'd go for it if i had a teen at home.

13throwcenter
09-05-2002, 01:35 PM
yeah you remember the days when you were 15 and if you wanted something to happen, you made it happen regardless of parentla interference, punishment, etc.... right?




strange things are afoot at the circle k

csmooth24
09-05-2002, 01:40 PM
i don't think its a good idea for co-ed sleep overs...

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rockrighter
09-05-2002, 02:14 PM
I guess it depends on the kid and the people they hang out with. There were many times when I was at a friends' house with both males and females. One time, all 8 or 9 of us slept on a queen size bed. That is, until two of them started making out (they were already together) and making slobbery noises. And another guy farted, too, so then we ended up in the den. :oP
Since I happened to be at a bunch of 'em when I was younger, I don't see a problem with it. But again, it depends on the kid and their friends. My school was very clique-y, and I wouldn't feel comfortable staying at one of their places with the types of parties they have (based solely on reputation, mind you.)