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jamijams
09-08-2004, 03:06 PM
http://www.ridingelectra.com/spiked/dates.html

i've also recently read a few articles about Osama being held in Turkey (I think Turkey?) captured in August but on ice until November

gee, I'd be shocked

in any case, long read but now I know lots about dates......

Do_the_Evolution
09-08-2004, 03:28 PM
http://www.ridingelectra.com/spiked/dates.html

i've also recently read a few articles about Osama being held in Turkey (I think Turkey?) captured in August but on ice until November

gee, I'd be shocked

in any case, long read but now I know lots about dates......

Interesting article. I just saw this yesterday, thought it fit appropriately here in conspiracty theories:

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf

jamijams
09-08-2004, 03:39 PM
Interesting article. I just saw this yesterday, thought it fit appropriately here in conspiracty theories:

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf

someone i used to be friends with basically laid out the whole pentagon mis-match of facts and pictures months ago
she basically had researched everything shown in the video, with the same conclusion

but - where did the flight that may or may not have hit the pentagon go? there were civilian deaths on that flight, that the video does not give explanation for

in any case, and interesting video i thought

Do_the_Evolution
09-08-2004, 03:48 PM
someone i used to be friends with basically laid out the whole pentagon mis-match of facts and pictures months ago
she basically had researched everything shown in the video, with the same conclusion

but - where did the flight that may or may not have hit the pentagon go? there were civilian deaths on that flight, that the video does not give explanation for

in any case, and interesting video i thought

That's a great point. Where did the flight go?

I don't have the patience or acuity to come up with this stuff. Your friend must have spent a lot of time putting these facts and details together.

reallygroovN
09-08-2004, 06:18 PM
a. i hate dates

b. i find it interesting and at the same time sickening that 1,000 american soldiers have been killed in iraq however saddam and osama are both alive and well. and, according to frontline's documentary on the first gulf war, saddam was quoted as saying something to the effect that, 'as long as i'm alive, i win'.

it's sad.

jamijams
09-08-2004, 06:21 PM
a. i hate dates




i bet if i stuffed 'em with goat cheese, and almond and wrapped them in you-know-what-pig-product you'd eat them

if not, I'd eat them all anyway!!!!

reallygroovN
09-08-2004, 06:24 PM
i bet if i stuffed 'em with goat cheese, and almond and wrapped them in you-know-what-pig-product you'd eat them

if not, I'd eat them all anyway!!!!
if by goat cheese, you mean feta, then i'm there. afterall, everything is betta with feta ;) and if i didnt like them, i would politely eat one and let you jam on the rest :)

painting sucks!

jamijams
09-08-2004, 06:25 PM
painting sucks!
no way! i can't wait to do the rest of the house.
tomorrow i'll have a picture to show you or the pretty new hue! :gas:

yer ardy
09-08-2004, 11:26 PM
someone i used to be friends with basically laid out the whole pentagon mis-match of facts and pictures months ago
she basically had researched everything shown in the video, with the same conclusion

but - where did the flight that may or may not have hit the pentagon go? there were civilian deaths on that flight, that the video does not give explanation for

in any case, and interesting video i thought

i don't buy what that video is selling, never have, never will.
so the people who were in the area of the pentagon, driving
nearby as the plane flew overhead really didn't see what they saw...
how can one argue with a person who was there and saw everything?
i remember getting an email from a friend, too, with insane details about the supposed "conspiracy"....there's a conspiracy for everything these days...
conspiracies regarding WW2 concentration camps never happening, jim morrison never died, JFKs assassination, and who killed jonbenet ramsey...now we have the pentagon crash. every year, on the anniversary, we'll all have to live this nightmare over and over again, and be insulted by the "hoax" that it never happened....i truly wish i had that much time on my hands to spend investigating the obvious. plain and simple, it crashed into the pentagon, doing what? 600? miles an hour, completely full of jet fuel...
there wouldn't be much left as far as pieces of the plane or bodies...enough said. if anyone is hell-bent on proving a conspiracy theory they should start by asking the families of the passengers on board flight 77 what happened....

anyways.....
sorry for the rant.

Jde-PJ
09-08-2004, 11:49 PM
i don't buy what that video is selling, never have, never will.
so the people who were in the area of the pentagon, driving
nearby as the plane flew overhead really didn't see what they saw...
how can one argue with a person who was there and saw everything?
i remember getting an email from a friend, too, with insane details about the supposed "conspiracy"....there's a conspiracy for everything these days...
conspiracies regarding WW2 concentration camps never happening, jim morrison never died, JFKs assassination, and who killed jonbenet ramsey...now we have the pentagon crash. every year, on the anniversary, we'll all have to live this nightmare over and over again, and be insulted by the "hoax" that it never happened....i truly wish i had that much time on my hands to spend investigating the obvious. plain and simple, it crashed into the pentagon, doing what? 600? miles an hour, completely full of jet fuel...
there wouldn't be much left as far as pieces of the plane or bodies...enough said. if anyone is hell-bent on proving a conspiracy theory they should start by asking the families of the passengers on board flight 77 what happened....

anyways.....
sorry for the rant.
stuff like this makes me so angry, so I did not even reply to this, just wanted to say thank you ardy, you said said what I wanted in a way more peaceful tone.

ProfessorFrink
09-08-2004, 11:51 PM
stuff like this makes me so angry, so I did not even reply to this, just wanted to say thank you ardy, you said said what I wanted in a way more peaceful tone.

I'm with Jason and Ardy on this one.

(don't let it go to your head Jason)

Jde-PJ
09-08-2004, 11:52 PM
I'm with Jason and Ardy on this one.

(don't let it go to your head Jason)
I try not to allen, thank you.

jamijams
09-09-2004, 11:35 AM
jason i hope that there are things going on in your life that you can turn that anger into productive energy and use it for something positive

i'm trying not to get so upset about things i can't control right now
i said trying
it's hard, i know
i'm such a friggin worrier that i spend way, way too much energy getting worked up about stuff that doesn't even directly affect my life!
ugh!
i drive myself crazy!!!!!

Jde-PJ
09-09-2004, 12:35 PM
jason i hope that there are things going on in your life that you can turn that anger into productive energy and use it for something positive

i'm trying not to get so upset about things i can't control right now
i said trying
it's hard, i know
i'm such a friggin worrier that i spend way, way too much energy getting worked up about stuff that doesn't even directly affect my life!
ugh!
i drive myself crazy!!!!!
I don't let the anger bother me at all, once I see something I know will upset me, I try my best to ignore it Jami. When I was younger, I had a much tougher time doing so, but in the last year or two, I have gotten much better at staring clear of things I know will allow me to lose my cool.

Oh and yeah worrying, I have not beat that one yet, I still worry way too much about stuff I have no control over:nospeak: I guess I need to work harder on that one:ditsy: :cross:

yer ardy
09-09-2004, 11:16 PM
i don't know if this will mean anything to anyone
but when i was your age(s), i wish someone
my age would've told me that being angry at
things out of my control would be counterproductive
and a huge waste of precious time and energy.

truly, as one gets older, that feeling of
helplessness and hopelessness will subside...
you get to know yourself, and you figure
out what is purposeful and priceless to you...
family, friends, health and belief in one's self...

this is not to say that i just let things
fly by with not a care in the world type of
attitude. it's not that i don't have passions
and interests in changing my life, making
improvements. it's just that the things
beyond my control aren't worth my time and
effort..and certainly not worth worrying about...

there's a great quote from "lost in translation" when
charlotte tells bob she doesn't know what
she wants to be...he says:
"...The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you..."

that is so vital and true.
please don't let the next 10 years pass you by
while you struggle to solve every problem,
fret over the little things and argue your
point all the time....everyone is not like
you are...don't let the worry over the
uncontrollable end up controlling you.

find a good place in YOUR world
where you want to be and the
rest will fall in line.....